UKIP

[PeterE]

I wasn't aware of 'smoking lock ins', surely nothing of the scale of all the proper post 11.20pm lock ins all over the country before 1988, and not in the same league as the civil disobedience campaigns of movements confident that justice and public obinion will give them victory.

Well, civil disobedience is a little bit difficult when the authorities are going to come down on you like a ton of bricks. Plus there is no shortage of prodnoses and busybodies in this country who would be only too happy to grass up any "offenders".

I get the impression that a common response is to vote with your feet and set up informal get-togethers in private houses - try Googling "smoky-drinky".

[Gavin Davis]

I've not heard of one British pub that has defied the smoking ban, licensee and customers maintining a smoking room because it's an issue they feel so strongly about, no, repeated moaning is all opponents to the ban seem prepared to do.

I've been in attendence at a few smoking lock ins. The last couple have been as an ex smoker.

I wasn't aware of 'smoking lock ins', surely nothing of the scale of all the proper post 11.20pm lock ins all over the country before 1988, and not in the same league as the civil disobedience campaigns of movements confident that justice and public obinion will give them victory.

A couple of lock ins I experineced were pretty packed, and it seemed like it was a weekly thing. As a stranger I was asked if I minded.

[curMUDGEon]

If there's such discontent amongst smokers about the ban, and given the growth of 'speciality beers', why hasn't a tobacco flavoured cask ale, with a low but satisfying nicotine content, been brewed yet by a microbrewer.

[Brewmaster]

If there's such discontent amongst smokers about the ban, and given the growth of 'speciality beers', why hasn't a tobacco flavoured cask ale, with a low but satisfying nicotine content, been brewed yet by a microbrewer.

An early entry for 'The Daftest Idea of the Year 2011'.

[TheBeerNut]

why hasn't a tobacco flavoured cask ale, with a low but satisfying nicotine content, been brewed yet by a microbrewer.

Couldn't tell you what the nicotine content is, but here's Rough Snuff from Midtfyn, a "Fisherman's Ale" made from snuff and seaweed. It might fit the bill.

[curMUDGEon]

If there's such discontent amongst smokers about the ban, and given the growth of 'speciality beers', why hasn't a tobacco flavoured cask ale, with a low but satisfying nicotine content, been brewed yet by a microbrewer.

An early entry for 'The Daftest Idea of the Year 2011'.

Similar comments were made about hops several hundred years ago ;
"Hopped beer was imported to England from the Netherlands as early as 1400 in Winchester, and hops were being planted on the island by 1428. The popularity of hops was at first mixed—the Brewers Company of London went so far as to state "no hops, herbs, or other like thing be put into any ale or liquore wherof ale shall be made—but only liquor (water), malt, and yeast."

[TheBeerNut]

the Brewers Company of London went so far as to state "no hops, herbs, or other like thing be put into any ale or liquore wherof ale shall be made—but only liquor (water), malt, and yeast."

Of course they wouldn't have wanted hops in ale. But hops in beer would have been fair game, if a bit new-fangled and suspiciously foreign. Ale brewers and beer brewers were different professions making different products.

[curMUDGEon]

why hasn't a tobacco flavoured cask ale, with a low but satisfying nicotine content, been brewed yet by a microbrewer.

Couldn't tell you what the nicotine content is, but here's Rough Snuff from Midtfyn, a "Fisherman's Ale" made from snuff and seaweed. It might fit the bill.

Yes, I wouldn't mind trying that one, but haven't seen it on sale anywhere.
One might have expected the smoking ban to cause an increase in the consumption of snuff and yet I know few drinkers that take it and even fewer pubs that sell it.